BEANS AGAIN OH NO! OH! YEH! From: Lehman Newsgroups: misc.survivalism Subject: Re: Food Question (beans) long Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 09:26:30 -0700 Bill Vojak> Anybody have any ideas on this? Are there any beans out there that require less cooking time than normal? Any other solutions to this problem? I do have a solution, but must warn you, it is not for the weak in heart, the reason I add this is because it's my parents who I know of this--sprouting, and it is an aquired taste. It requires no energy, just water, and they are _very_ good for you, moreso than before you sprouted it, let alone cook it. My parents swear by it, me, I'm still thinking it over. Now as to your question, I would think that lentils and chick peas would do best, with size in mind. Always soak your beans too, that helps alot. Brian Lentils do not require soaking and cook up in about 20 minutes. They can be cooked along with rice. Being small, lentils store more efficiently than the bigger dried beans, but they also don't bulk up like say pinto beans do when they're cooked. Nicole Louisville, KY PaigeTurnr@aol.com From: Mark Taylor Newsgroups: misc.survivalism Subject: Re: Food Question (beans) long Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 22:15:07 -0500 Sprouting is good, and it converts a lot of nutrients in the beans to more usable forms. (I wonder if you could collect methane from...nah i'm not serious!) Another option which you would have to verify...if you crack the beans up, like with a hand mill, just enough to break them, would they cook faster? I am asking now, in case someone knows already, but maybe i'll try it and let you know later. Sender: degroff@netcom7.netcom.com From: degroff@netcom.com (21012d) Beans and peas can be crushed or milled like grains, smaller pieces soak and cook faster,Beans also can be steam cooked and then dried like some of the fast cook rice, oats and wheat products. Brown rice is better, but also remember that it does not store as long, so store some brown rice, but for long term, find a better kind. (it goes rancid from the oil) From: Richard Edwards Newsgroups: misc.survivalism Subject: Re: Food Question (beans) long Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 18:46:35 -0800 2) Fuel will be scarce so it should be conserved. As a result, my six month supply is pretty much MRE types of foods, and rice: 6 40LB bags of dry dog food, (for the 2 dogs) 1584oz White Rice dry weight (99LB) 192 MREs 100 Jelly packs 100 Peanut Butters packs 432 4" x 4" Crackers 144 Apple Sauces 72 Scallop Potatoes & Ham Entrees 72 Chicken & Rice Entrees 90 Survival ration bars 2000+ Gal drinkable Water: Using stored water and the PUR Water Filter. 500+ Gal washing water using the Coghlanâs water filter, purification tablets and bleach We won't be "eating like kings", but with the menu I worked out, we will be able to survive in reasonable comfort for 6 months. I'd really like to be able to add a 100LB of nitrogen packed beans to the supplys in order to add more protein, fiber and variety. My main problem is, beans take ALOT of energy to cook! Even if you pre-soak them they take lot's of cooking time. I was even considering getting a small pressure cooker to help cut down the time needed for cooking. Just as an aside, this is the menu I worked out for 2 people using the above supply list. . . ----------------- Normal usage for 2 people: Rice is measured by dry weight: For each person For 183 days Choose: >>> Lunch 2 4"x4" Crackers 1 Jelly OR 1 Peanut Butter (200 meals) OR 1 Apple Sauce 1 Bread (144 meals) OR 1 Survival Bar 4 oz Rice. (30 meals, 120 oz rice used) >>> Dinner 1 MRE 3 oz Rice, (192 meals, 576 oz rice used) OR 1 Entree (Chicken/Rice OR Potato/Ham) 4 oz Rice, (144 meals, 576 oz rice used) OR 2 Survival Bar 4 oz Rice, (30 meals, 120 oz rice used) >>> Remainders (surplus) 56 Breads 192 oz Rice ??? Any canned goods and other food around the house. >>> Water 4 Gal Drinkable water/day per person 1 Gal Sanitary water/day per person Like I said, not exactly eating like kings. . . . :-) Bill Vojak BCVojak@worldnet.att.net Be sure to bring some vitamines along, you might not have much along the lines of fresh fruits or vegetables at first. You might also consider brown rice instead of white rice for the same reason.